personal defense the use of a firearm in one's self defense. we have a natural right to self defense. the second amendment guarantees rights to bear and keep arms. we as a people have the ability to choose whatever means we seem best to -- >> that's not what she was arguing. she wasn't saying everybody has the right to deserve whatever capacity. she said to him you can't understand because you are a man. >> women naturally, generally speaking, are physically weaker than men. it's quite obvious. women are also targets of violent crime, of rape, of assault. we have to be able to match force with force. >> let me jump in. i am going to get to sally in a minute. why does that mean she needs a 100 round magazine in her gun? >> it's a bill of rights: it's not a bill of needs. the second amendment guarantees the right to bear arms. justice scalia wrote in dc verses hiller the second amendment protects the use of common firearms. the ar 15 is the most commonly owned rifle. >> let me get sally to weigh in. >> look, when the bill of rights wrauz w was wr